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Old May 25th, 2011, 07:18 AM
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Hi Eric,

Not too sure if this needed to be in the SEO section, or questions? Move if needs be.

I dont want Google to be giving my competitors one way links which will increase their organic listings.

Can i check if the code below is the right thing to add to my buy buttons and is it in the right order??

Also can you think of any other outbound links within datafeedr which will need this code? I understand there's the category page, page detail, store front.


<div class="btns">
<div>[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
<a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product">
<img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"/></a>
</div>

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Old May 25th, 2011, 07:44 AM
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I have this code for the product detail? Shall i just repeat?

<!-- Single Product -->
<div class="sp">
<div class="lc">
<div class="thmb">
<a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
[product.image tag='1']
</a>
<div class="btns">
<div>[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
<a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product">
<img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"></a>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="rc">
<h3><a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[product.name]</a></h3>
<p class="desc">[product.description cut='75 words']</p>
<div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="clearingdiv"> </div>
</div>
<!-- /Single Product -->​​​​​​​
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Old May 25th, 2011, 09:24 AM
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I dont want Google to be giving my competitors one way links which will increase their organic listings.
Even if you have an uncloaked affiliate link, it shouldn't give your "competitors" any juice because the link points at the affiliate network site, not the merchant's site.

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<div class="btns">
<div>[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
<a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product">
<img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"/></a>
</div>
This is incorrect. You have put the nofollow attribute on the image which won't do anything. You need to do it on the <a> tag, not the <img> tag.

HTML Code:
<div class="btns">
        <div>[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
        <a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product" rel="nofollow">
  <img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" target="_blank"/></a>
    </div>

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<!-- Single Product -->
<div class="sp">
<div class="lc">
<div class="thmb">
<a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
[product.image tag='1']
</a>
<div class="btns">
<div>[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
<a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product" rel="nofollow">
<img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" target="_blank"></a>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="rc">
<h3><a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[product.name]</a></h3>
<p class="desc">[product.description cut='75 words']</p>
<div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="clearingdiv"> </div>
</div>
<!-- /Single Product -->​​​​​​​
Again, don't put it on the <img> tags, just the <a> tags:

HTML Code:
<!-- Single Product -->
<div class="sp">
	<div class="lc">
		<div class="thmb">
			<a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"> [product.image tag='1'] </a> 
			<div class="btns">
				<div>
					[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]
				</div>
				<a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product" rel="nofollow"> 
					<img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" target="_blank"> 
				</a> 
			</div>
		</div>
	</div>
	<div class="rc">
		<h3>
			<a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">[product.name]</a> 
		</h3>
		<p class="desc">
			[product.description cut='75 words']
		</p>
		<div>
		</div>
	</div>
	<div class="clearingdiv">
	</div>
</div>

<!-- /Single Product -->
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Old May 25th, 2011, 10:28 AM
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I see, thanks for that. I will have some customer products so theres no network in the way.

I will add the no follow command. I don't want google to treat my website as an affiliate website.

Do you think clocking is a bad idea, or good for Google? In your personal opinion?
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Old May 25th, 2011, 10:38 AM
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Do you think clocking is a bad idea, or good for Google? In your personal opinion?
I don't think it's a bad idea but I've never read what Google thinks about it.
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Old May 25th, 2011, 07:09 PM
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macfink -

Nice looking site!

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I don't want google to treat my website as an affiliate website.
Google is going to know you are an affiliate, like Eric explained, because your links will go through a network (linkshare, shareasale, etc.) Google knows where you are sending traffic.

I've had my affiliate site for six years, over a year with DFR, and I have not seen an impact on ranking whether my affiliate links were cloaked or uncloaked.

Matt Cutts said there is no problem with affiliates as long as they offer something unique to the niche and to Google's users. Google owns an affiliate network. I am not sure big names like Target, Red Envelope, Personal Creations, and many more would use GAN if they knew Google punished affiliates in their SERPs.

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Even if you have an uncloaked affiliate link, it shouldn't give your "competitors" any juice because the link points at the affiliate network site, not the merchant's site.
This one is debatable:

About two month ago I was lucky enough to get free SEO advice from one of the top 10 SEO companies in the world. He did suggest we do a no-follow because it may be draining link juice to the networks or the competitors. The links does redirect and it seems Google would pass the very tiny bit of juice on to the merchant (competitor?). But unless your site has authority, it probably passes none to either - does not help your competitor's ranking. But do note that that many links pointing off your site to the network or your merchants may drain your internal link juice, or internal authority.

The bigger point may be that Google may view these cloaked links as paid links.

Lots of maybe and may words. In other words, better safe than sorry. Use no-follow.

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I understand there's the category page, page detail, store front.
You might like this Matt Cutts YouTube Video about no follow on internal links
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Old May 26th, 2011, 06:31 AM
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Hey Cash Now.

Thanks the advice. I am a nub when it comes to affiliate marketing, this will be my first site. Thanks for suggesting the site looked nice, i just need to go through and block so many crappy products from my website.

Can you look at this post here and let me know your thoughts in that post? After all you have said here i think a sub-domain would be best?

/show...ed=1#post20981

Also can i have a look at your sites if you dont mind?
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Old May 26th, 2011, 07:00 AM
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I see you have posted. Cheers
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Old May 26th, 2011, 07:35 AM
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i just need to go through and block so many crappy products from my website
That can be a headache. Otherwise, DFR is nice.

My site is www.forbabygifts.com

BTW, where did you get that header! It is great! (One of the owners used to surf the US east coast.)

I am ranking one page two-three for many competitive terms in the US (baby gifts, baby shower gifts, etc). Page one for moderate terms like baby baptism gifts and personalized baby gifts.

Looking for ways to get more natural inbound links. If you have any suggestions, something that works for you, I am all ears
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Old May 27th, 2011, 03:02 AM
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Hi Buddy,

Nice clean website! Link baiting is good for inbound links. I pay for submission to articles relating to my content. Also directories are a good one. Make sure once you pay the contract is for permanent links, not subscription. It depends how much you have to spend on advertising. For me PPC/adwords is a waste of time as an affiliate because the ROI is rubbish because you are competing with the merchants who have larger margins to spend on higher bids. I would always concentrate on organic traffic. However, i guess this would depend on what you are selling as an affiliate.

Having a shopping cart and doing drop shipping is handy as i can list my products on Google shopping, this brings around 30% of my traffic.

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That can be a headache. Otherwise, DFR is nice.
Whats DFR?
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Old May 27th, 2011, 07:46 AM
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Thanks for the link tips. Will give a few a try. The drop-shipping is interesting. We've played with that idea before. Getting 30% more traffic would be great!


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It's datafeedr.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 07:26 AM
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Hi Eric,

Just so im not making any mistakes. Have i placed the "rel="nofollow" in the correct place on this page?

HTML Code:
<!-- Featured Products List Heading -->
<!-- /Featured Products List Heading -->


<!-- Random Products List Loop -->
<div class="pl">
  [product.each]
  <div class="t1 col3">
  <div class="bdr">
    <h2><a href="[product.link]" title="[product.name]"rel="nofollow">[product.name]</a></h2>
    <div class="thmb"><a href="[product.link]" title="[product.name]">[product.image tag='1']</a></div>
    <div class="prc">[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
    <div class="btns">
      <a href="[product.link]" title="View details of [product.name]"rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_details.gif"></a>
    <a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="Buy [product.name]"rel="nofollow"><img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product"></a>
    </div>
    <div class="clearingdiv"> </div>
  </div>
  </div>
  [product.end]
  <div class="clearingdiv"> </div>
</div>
<!-- /Random Products List Loop -->
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Old June 24th, 2011, 08:24 AM
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Have i placed the "rel="nofollow" in the correct place on this page?
No. You need spaces before the "rel" attribute begins and you also need a nofollow on the image link.

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Old June 29th, 2011, 07:47 AM
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Hi Eric,

Have i got this right as well?

HTML Code:
<!-- Single Product -->
<div class="sp">
  <div class="lc">
    <div class="thmb">
      <a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">
        [product.image tag='1']
      </a>
      <div class="btns">
        <div>[product.currency mode="sign"][product.price]</div>
        <a href="[product.url]" title="Buy this product" rel="nofollow">
  <img src="http://www.rideonsurfshop.co.uk/images/buttons/button_buy_now_large.gif" alt="Buy this product" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"/></a>
    </div>
    </div>
    </div>
    <div class="rc">
      <h3><a href="[product.url direct='0']" title="[product.name]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[product.name]</a></h3>
      <p class="desc">[product.description cut='75 words']</p>
    <div>
    </div>
  </div>
  <div class="clearingdiv"> </div>
</div>
<!-- /Single Product -->
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Old June 29th, 2011, 08:06 AM
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Your links are fine but you don't need a nofollow on your <img> tag.
 


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